equatorWell done Nimbus.
For giving us the gift on some Indian fucktard who is carrying on like a wanker while wearing an Adolf Hitler mask.
Well done Michael Kasprowicz.
For not pointing out that it wasn’t on, and instead talking about the fans having smiles on their faces.
Adolf Hitler masks are not really for the cricket, and if some dickhead does take one in, there was no reason to show the guy wearing it.
Luckily for the BCCi there are no Jewish players in the Ausralian side, but there are Jewish players in first class cricket, the Hebrew Hammer Michael Klinger.
What would have been better was if after the innings the Australian audience were sent back to the Sydney studios for Jon Moss, a Jewish ex shield cricketer who now does commentary for Foxsports.
These two might not have found it so funny to see a fan lapping up the attention of the camera crew while wearing a mask of someone who tried to exterminate their ancestors.
Someone who as largely responsible for about 70 million deaths. 11 million of those he signed the papers for himself.
Perhaps not someone that people want to hear described as having a smile on his face.
Here is the dickhead.
I know that some Indians don’t always see the Holocaust as something that bad, but having your head up your ass isn’t a realistic defence in my mind.
Nimbus, will there be an apology to the jewish members of your audience, or those who just think that someone enjoying themselves in a hitler mask is in the shittest possible taste.
EDIT: I apologise to the BCCI, bccI and the BCCi for saying they were involved in this. I thought they owned the images and hired Nimbus to film them. That was incorrect.
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pussy wad – Try not to generalize Indians. we all know how racist aussies are. thats a fact, not generalizing.
I was pretty shocked when I saw that. I couldn’t believe it was really a Hitler mask, I mean seriously who manufactures those, Halloween isn’t even that big in India. Its one thing catching the guy on film, quite another to show it on air. You surely can’t be that ignorant to wear a Hitler mask not knowing what the man represents, and while freedom of expression is something that many can respect no matter how vile and disgusting the message, responsible broadcasters should never be show something like that.
Just yesterday I read about an Australian cookie company changing a biscuit’s name because it was called Creole, and I thought that was being way too sensitive. This deserves any condemnation it receives and I’m glad to see you breaking it.
anirban, even if we were to agree to your crude generalization, do you really think that justifies similar (or in this case, much much worse) behavior? Nimbus owes its audience an apology. I don’t care about what the fool who wore the mask thinks or says. I don’t pay to watch him.
Anirban, great comment, one for not reading the piece correctly, “some Indians”, not all, not a generalisation, but some, like for instance the one wearing a Hitler mask. But the real skill in your comment has to be the fact you have called Australians racist in a post where an Indian has a Hitler mask on. Bravo.
I think this is pretty shocking and insulting to a hell of a lot of people, not just Jews. Sorry to be all serious, but my grandparents were Dutch catholics whose family suffered a great deal during occupation at Hitler’s orders. I think there ought to be an apology. It’s bad enough that someone would behave like this, but to give it such attention is just wrong.
And, anirban, I have now re-read this post several times and there was no generalisation about Indians in it at all. You certainly generalised about Australians in your comment, though.
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That was disgusting.
I couldn’t believe no one even reacted to it.
Good on you jrod to get it out.
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What an idiot you are Anirban!!! don’t embarrass us further
wtf? watch the cricket dude. and the guy probably meant no harm. and i should think the mask made hitler look like a buffoon. and whats with the whole moral thingy, getting offended on behalf of the entire jewish community? and why blame bcci and in the process take potshots at them for no fault of theirs? and not to mention your potshot at the indian community by suggesting some of them have their heads up their backsides. stop sermonizing. and nobody is going to offer you or anyone else an apology.
and JRod we don’t have any feelings for Jews negative or positive, as there are no Jews here in India. Its just a stupid fad !!!
What an idiot ……………………………………………..
That is strange, i thought i was watching the cricket. I thought that is where I saw it.
you are , but people do all crazy stuff on getting some attention on TV, like reality TV.
I am not justifying the mask, just saying that there is no genuine antisemitism here !!
@indophile – we do have jews in India. Cochin has one of asia’s oldest Synagogue and even Mumbai has quite a nice Synagogue in South Mumbai. Also lately we have had several Jews from Israel, North America and very few from Europe who have setup their base in India.
Rayden , I know that but still they are pretty much invisible , do you really think that stupid mask guy hate Jews ?
No Jews here in India? What are you talking about Indophile? When did you become an authority on declaring the existence of Jews in the country?
You sound as bad as this Anirban guy.
Comeon guys ..I know there are Jews and Synagogue, been to the Cochin one , but really can’t you see what I mean by that comment
BCCI, not BCCi. Now I am offended.. where is my apology?
Indophile, in that case speak for yourself. I know many of the Cochin Jews on a very personal level, but this isn’t about whether it would offend them or just Jews in general. To show a right wing lunatic celebrate with a Hitler Mask on is incredibly irresponsible broadcasting and should hurt the sensibilities of anyone who doesn’t approve of mass murder and torture, forget the insane level to which the Nazis took this. They might as well have had a 5 minute tribute to glorify pol pot. To call this a “fad” and pretend the guy had no idea what he was doing by wearing that mask is insulting and belittling. I don’t care about him or what he was thinking, but I care that people should have to see that on TV.
Just wondering… As a practicing Hindu, should I not be allowed to have any images of the swastik ( not the swastika) in my house because it has anti Semitic connotations? Or will I join the ranks of “some Indians don’t always see the Holocaust as something that bad, but having your head up your ass isn’t a realistic defence in my mind.”
And I am still waiting for my apology.
Cheers,
achettup, I am speaking for myself only ( please read the comments). I know you don’t stay in India, but really when you were here, did you really find any Jew haters.
I was not validating Nimbus or BCCI behavior just explaining a known fact that even though there is a very small population of Jews in India but rarely anybody hates them.
And again the guy and all the concerned parties are really out of their mind
@jrod – my apologies.. shouldve said “some aussies” :p
@pedophile – tere ko kya embarrass karu? tu to pehle hi desh ka naam khayega. wht do you mean by “embarrassing us further”???? spk for ureself..
What is wrong with you people !!! is it that difficult to watch the game and enjoy . that dickwad with the mask probably bought it at the first shop he went into n u guys are spending time discussing his ignorant behavior !! Hey Jrod …dont get all preachy…i thought this blog was about cricket !! we dont write huge articles when we see u guys wearing ele[hant masks representing indian gods .. i remember seeing that at the gabba and it was taken in good spirit ….the fukkin idiot who wore the mask wouldnt even know about the holocaust cuz if he did he wudnt be wearing it !!! chill out n watch the indians kik ure ass at the game !!
Homer, The swatstik is an ancient symbol that a mad man liked, and I can see why, and stole for his own reasons. Ofcourse you can use it. But if you had a hitler mask on the wall next to it, and I know you wont, then that is when your head is up your ass, as an Indian, or as any nationality.
“Try not to generalize Indians. we all know how racist aussies are. thats a fact, not generalizing.”
anirban , and you were speaking for you and your ass I guess
good to see you responding to your new name
Aditya, It was shown on the cricket broadcast, so it is about the cricket. I’ve never seen elephant masks at the gabba, but if i had they would have got a mention.
Anirban, some of all people are racists, and idiots.
Why JRod? Is it because you know me and will therefore give me the benefit of the doubt? If you didn’t, wont I get into the Anti Semitic category( based on the argument you made here)?
Now let me manufacture some outrage for you – The I in the BCCI stands for India. The fact that an Australian blogger chose “i” instead of “I” while taking care to keep the BCC capitalized indicates to me the mentality of the Australians. The fact that the Australian is from Melbourne, and given the spate of racist attacks on Indians in Australia, particularly Melbourne and it is not difficult to see how “bigoted” the blogger is.
Outrageous?
But not dis-similar to the argument you have made.. You assume malice when there is none.
Was it bad Television – Yes.. Was it anti semetic? You tell me.
Cheers,
Sadly Anirban, you are both, probably a racist and definitely an idiot
Indo and blue banana, I gathered the following from your comments:
1) Cricket can be used to cover up any inappropriate gesture because clearly cricket is the bigger picture here
2) There is something wrong with Jrod for being moral
3) The man’s ignorance and attention grabbing tactics means we should just overlook it
That’s what you were trying to say right?
and Anirban, as you are clearly delighted with little joke of yours , go to your bed now
H, The Swatstik is not a racist symbol, Hitler’s face is. That is why I give you the benefit of the doubt. But if I came into your house, I would ask you about it.
I’m not saying there was malice in this, this was just some idiot in a mask, and if he is too stupid to know the connotations of wearing a mask like this then his head is up his ass. Nimbus and Kasprowicz should know better. They shouldn’t be showing someone in a hitler mask, they shouldn’t be making light of it, and most importantly they should own up that they made a mistake.
CM, I get moral all the time, like I did over the Bilal Shafayat comments, didn’t see many people complaining about that.
@indophile
and JRod we don’t have any feelings for Jews negative or positive, as there are no Jews here in India. Its just a stupid fad !!!
We being? I stand by what I said, if you dismiss it as a fad you are doing a great disservice. You might not be aware of fanatical zealots in certain parts of this country who embrace Nazi ideologists to further their stupid goals, but I unfortunately have read up on these groups. It isn’t so much as whether they are anti-semitic, it is more about embracing a doctrine of hate, mass murder and torture towards people in general who they consider to be of an inferior race. I understand that you and I agree on many points, but I’m just saying we shouldn’t brush this under the carpet but instead recognize it while ensuring those who seek to gain from the publicity do not profit. Also you assume far too much.
@Homer Just yesterday I saw a program on BBC where a Hindu priest blessed a couple’s new car, and one of the symbols was the swastik. It was quite clear to anyone who saw that the man was not broadcasting a message of hate. Can you please tell me what you think the guy wearing the mask was hoping to achieve? Was he an advocate for free speech? What exactly were Nimbus trying to achieve by broadcasting the fool’s celebrations, not once but quite a few times during the match?
Ahmedinijad has held conferences inviting people to discuss whether the Holocaust could have existed in the name of free speech, among his invited guests were KKK leaders. If you display the swastika in Germany you can expect a prison sentence, and the same in France if you deny the Holocaust took place. Some people consider these to be a little extreme, but the fact is that the central message is that it is easy at an impressionable age to be influenced by the Nazi doctrine. I’m not sure if JRod was picking on the guy with the mask or Nimbus with that line, but if it was Nimbus I am in full agreement with him, and I think reducing this to an Aus vs Ind flamewar because of the way JRod has chosen to phrase this, diminishes a far greater evil that should be recognized and dealt with appropriately.
CM,
There is nothing wrong with JRod stand, or anything correct about Cricket being the front for right wing nonsense. I happen to be near to this place where the match is happening and can assure you about the point which I was making, that the mask doesn’t stand for antisemitism.
But of course it was disgraceful and media in general should be held responsible
UJ,
So if you came to my house and asked me about it, should I be outraged at your ignorance? I mean, after all, it is a Hindu symbol and I am Hindu and therefore you should know better than asking me about it.
Ignorance is far more common malaise than we give it credit for. I agree that Nimbus should apologize and the producer fired. But at the same time, the fact that Michael Kasprowicz, a man with Eastern European ancestry, chose not to make a big deal of it, tells you what?
Shouldnt I be outraged that a man who should have known better, given his ancestry and the fact that he shared the dressing room with some of the people you mentioned, chose to keep mum rather than express outrage?
The fact that Michael Kasprowicz chose to succumb to mammon than do the right thing is the real scandal here.
Cheers,
Ach,
Not sure I follow…Are you suggesting that because I do not buy UJ’s argument whole, I am anti semetic? Or do you want me to second guess Nimbus’ motivation behind airing the guy’s visage on screen every so often?
The real outrage for me is that when given the chance the stem the rot in the bud, Michael Kasprowicz, who should have known better, chose to play along.
Heads should roll, starting with the producer.. Apologies are neither here nor there (watch the NFL, everyone is apologizing for everything all the time).
Cheers,
Not quite sure where you got that Homer, what I am saying is that you have brought up instances that imho seemed to deflect from the central theme of the post. It just seemed to me that by reproducing the particular phrase JRod no doubt adopted to make the post a little more controversial, you were creating an environment where idiots like this anirban could fuel an irrelevant context.
I don’t know if Kaspers was too shocked or just didn’t know how to react, but I still don’t think thats the crux. How stupid do you have to be as a director/producer to zoom in and focus on the guy. If you’ve got the guy on tape, you can send it to the press and let them bring it up in the right context.
I understand where you are coming from and I don’t mean to accuse you of having an ulterior motive, because I think I know you well enough to know where you stand on the real issue here. Cheers.
H, if you had any of the following, a dead fox, a picture of delta goodrem, or a swatstik on your wall i would ask about them all. Sort of person I am.
I’m definitely pissed off with Kapsa, although to be fair i’ve always been pissed of with him. He can’t claim ignorance.
I think Nimbus and Kasprowicz are the scandal, hence why I led with them.
Not surprising to see the Hitler mask.. we even use Mein Kampf as a “self-improvement and management strategy guide” in India. http://bit.ly/1D1H1T
Should Nimbus/BCCI apologise every time they show and praise Narendra Modi at a cricket match? Many consider him guilty of genocide.
So where does the BCCI feature in all of this?
H, Shastri said, these pictures are brought to you by Nimbus on behlaf of the BCCi.
Homer I take that back, it certainly wasn’t you who was creating a context for an Aus-Ind flamewar, going through “blue banana”’s comment and seeing how easy it was to stoke anirban into reacting makes me wonder if irresponsibly acting responsible is the way to go about things. A pity anirban played right into it. As long as the central issue, which to me is about denouncing the broadcast of fascist ideology is what gets the most attention, I guess thats all that matters to me.
Just curious Jrod, why the BCCi instead of BCCI?
Just like Sky Sports telecasts images on behalf of the eCB. Or Channel 9 for Ca.Oh wait! behalf means different things in different geographies.. My bad!
H, maybe I got it wrong, but i thought the BCCi owned the images and brought the company in to film it. Rather than selling the images like the others do. If it is the same system will happily take down the slight on the BCCi. Not everything I do is a conspiracy against India, surprisingly.
Ach, It started with a typo, I have two huge errors that I always make when typing, one is putting a capital O in POnting’s name, and the other was the BCCi. I am obviously shit at typing in general, but even more so with capslock. Or perhaps they were both subconscious. But I kept the BCCi one as I am not their biggest fan, didn’t keep the Ponting one because it looks stupid.
are the aussies deliberately not talking about the match, or what?
If you are serious about holocausts, and not just a typical white-skinned liberal, read this
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ZESTAlternative/message/193
and this
http://www.kooriweb.org/gst/genocide/tatz.html
and this
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/History/American_Holocaust.html
and this
http://innercity.org/holt/slavechron.html
for starters – then we can talk.
Did I suggest a conspiracy UJ?
And for what its worth, check this out
http://news.outlookindia.com/item.aspx?668072
Cheers,
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http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ZESTAlternative/message/193
Hey Jrod, I can understand why you are not a fan of BCCI but why keep the i as small caps – the ” i ” stands for India. You can keep bccI if you wish – bcc in small caps. Although that would look stupid as well but most people will understand. Also just because someone does not know about the holocaust does not mean they are bad people. I am sure not everyone in the world will know the attrocities commited by the British on Indians etc – for example: killing one Indian and asking the other Indian to clean the blood stains on the floor using their tongue – now just because people dont know about these does not mean they are bad people or when they praise these same generals or past queens, that does not mean they are trying to insult Indians.
The guy in the mask was an complete Idiot. Unfortunately I am sure a lot of the camera men of Nimbus dont know about the holocaust and thought – hey look – man with mask – how funny – lets focus on him. The guy who did know about it was probably Michael Kasprowicz and he should have informed the producers immediately on what grave mistake they were commiting. If he did, and they still focused on the guy, then they all should be fired. If not, I am sure most of the guys at Nimbus didnt realize what they were doing. I myself didnt know about the holocaust till few years back. I just thought Hitler was a madman trying to take over the world. Does that make me a bad person or someone trying to insult jews?
Bcci would be guilty if
A) they insisted on the hitler mask being televised
B) if they fail to condemn it in retrospect atleast
There is no need to blame them in advance before seeing how they react. That’s where, jrod, you erred. Spot on about nimbus and kaspro. But including bcci seems like “let’s bcci, everyone loves that”.
Kasper is unforgivable. Someone in india may not even know about hitler but kasper has no excuse.
Question here; many sri lankan tamils now consider rajapakshe as a genocider. So, we shld start protesting if he attends a cricket match in colombo? Same as modi in ahmedabad? Yeah, and what price george bush? Is it ok to wear a bush mask? Or, should we hold him responsible for the millions of lives lost in afghan and iraq for a phoney war on terrorism?
UJ,
You got it wrong wrt the BCCI-Nimbus deal. And that is because of your ignorance, nothing more nothing less.
Enough to get me outraged?
Cheers,
And yes, a few lords and decorated geberals in 19th century britain, whose photos are probably in a respectful position in lord’s might have indulged in despicable acts in india. And elsewhere. If you don’t know about it, should I call you head up in ass? Where does this stop?
You dont even have to go that far back Raj. Winston Churchill, war hero, was primararily instrumental in one of the biggest genocides in history – the Bengal Famine
Rayden, I you look at my site design you will see I don’t like capital letters. Other than in sentences in the posts, i almost never use them. If it wouldn’t cause me more work by explaining why i didn’t use them, i’d never use them.
Raj & Jogesh, You both forgot Genghis Khan and Napoleon. There are people who watched the cricket today who lived through the blitz and the holocaust. The face of Hitler is not a joke to them. You can name dozens of other people, and I may even agree with most of the people you blame, but Hitler is a given, 90% of people who know about him agree he was a monster. It isn’t something for a cricket commentator to laugh along with.
H, I hope the survivors of my ignorant mistake accept my apology.
UJ,
You can always remedy it by getting rid of the BCCI references in the blog.. Easy doozy..
Cheers,
H, had already done that.
Thank you Sir!
For the record, I am against all genocide, unless it is cricket officials.
I think you all deserve lower case, the smallest one available, for the most useless and ill-directed piece of pretentious pseudo-outraged point-scoring on a cricket blog.
You’re all up your own arseholes.
Sorry Jogesh, I didn’t see any Chris Columbus masks at the cricket today. Thanks for this history lesson on how Aboriginals were treated in Australia, as an Australian I didn’t know about it.
I was absolutely shocked when I saw that. I looked over to my dad and he had the same shocked look on his face. As far as what you lot have said several things are clear:
1. jrod doesn’t much care for the bcci. And rightly so, it turns cricket into a business and anytime that bastardisation happens something is wrong. I have been disgusted by the bcci on several occasions although they are not at fault here.
2. whoever was wearing the mask is a jackass. We all can agree there.
3. Hitler, also a jackass
4. people commenting here need to realise that what jrod is saying is in no way racist. Unless he comes out and talks directly about NRI’s getting beat up then he is not referring to that. Unless he says that all indians are dickheads with their heads up there arse then he doesn’t mean it. Several of you need to stop taking things so frigging personally.
Jrod, we know you hate all the racist equally (Nick Griffin et all) , so with help of hindsight the whole commenting saga seems to be pointless as steve mentioned. Well it was insensitive and rather ignorant stupidity but it is magnified by all the comments. Just to pile up everything
on Kaspo due to his east European heritage seems to be unfair as all the commentator know their history and I don’t think anybody would have protested loudly .
To prolong this is sheer insanity, hopefully better sense will prevail and the network will get a proper kick in their backside for focusing on this sort of shit, but considering on what all the network zoom in most of the time it was not surprising , but let hope so.
Wow; you opened the lid on a few cans of nutters here Jrod.
I was particularly intrigued by the “he meant no harm” line. What kind of parallel universe did that come from?
Note: Hitler also had a thing going for gassing gypsies. What do modern Indians make of that?
What fun! Literally hours of entertainment, I’ve been following it all evening! Just like Youtube without the videos.
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Indians were never anti-Semites. Jews were never massacred in India. Jews were always protected by successive Hindu kings.
Naturally present day Indians do not carry the white man’s guilt. In our schools and in our media, we are not trained on how react to antisemitism. That is because antisemitism does not exist among Indians. That is why the level of outrage to a incident such as the one you have spoken about is much lesser than what you would find in any western country. Unlike western countries where successive generations have to reminded about past horrors and trained to be outraged at antisemitism just so that the past may not repeat itself all over again.
Without a history of hatred towards the jews, the mask just becomes a foolish mistake. That is why someone said “he meant no harm” He is just a dick looking for a reason to annoy and get noticed.
By highlighting the ignorance of some you are adding credence to their outrageousness. Being voiciferous about such a matter silences no one, not least the extremists, who thrive on the attention derived from their ill meaning. Simply, you have justified his racial stance, if it was that of which was intended. The past has been recognised, not removed. It has been analysed but not absolved. We have moved forward not backward. Indellably, living in the past rectifies no future. Living in the future, however, signifies a learning from the past. And if we have learnt anything thing from the past it is not to re-create the mistakes of those before us. However, ‘we’, as humans, on the whole, are often reactive rather than proactive, as evidenced by this thread. Hence, the lack of foresight in matters most pressing and the inability to see through the trivialities, idiocracies and ideologies of the un-educated. React indignantly at your peril, but to think in good sense and to ignore the obsolescent, bravo! Sensitivties based on otherness are inexorably erroneous, and wrong. Remove ones self from the pack mentality, the you versus the us, and you will realise we are the ‘all’ – not the you, not me, not the we! Blame not the other for the injustice, blame one self, for the other is a transmogrified manifestation of the self. A happy bunch of Xenophobes ‘we’ all are! A happy bunch of cunts!
>> Thanks for this history lesson on how Aboriginals were treated in Australia, as an Australian I didn’t know about it.
Jrod, thats par for the course. Most Indians are still in denial about arguably the greatest crime against humanity ever, the centuries long crime of caste Hindus against Dalits – a system that persists till today.
See what a dalit writer had to say about the Symonds-Harbhajan affair:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ZESTAlternative/message/441
@Harsha
Half of us Indians are so ignorant that they wouldn’t even know what Jews practise, let alone what Hitler did ….
Apologies spread across, the Nimbus guys were dickheads and so was Kasper.
Can we now move on to cricket ? The thumping !!!!
Seriously, good on you Jarrod for taking a stand.
You’ve just helped educate some ignorant people around the world.
Par for the course though, any perceived slight from a white against an Indian or the diaspora will draw the haters and their excuses.
Hitler’s face is a symbol. And the mask is a cartoon depiction at that.
The Hitler mask must be a ’symbol’, or else the mask would be unrecognisable – because it doesn’t actually look like the real guy. It actually looks like the posters of Hitler the Allies made as anti-Nazi propaganda during the war.
Perhaps the dude wearing the mask saw it as an anti-Nazi statement. Or, perhaps, he saw it as a means of saying to somebody else (not actual genocidal despots), in a more-or-less metaphorical way, ‘hey, you people behave like a pack of Nazis.’ Common enough accusation.
And he wore it to an India/Australia cricket game? Who’s the ‘nazi’ do you think? The BCCI, for taking T20 and changing the world according to their own image? Or maybe, is it the ‘white’ cricket nations, Australia foremost amongst them, who until the BCCI started kicking ass really were a vanguard of dictatorial rule? Hmm …
Nevertheless, Jrod, the dude is probably not saying ‘big up Hitler, go you Nazis!’ – surely it would have been a more respectful depiction of Hitler if this were the case.
Odd that you of all people would miss the satire – especially with it couched so throughly in poor taste and aggressive ideas – isn’t that your forte?
Way to drive comments to your blog though! Just, fair warning, every dipshit neo-Nazi jew hater holocaust apoligist fuckwit on the net is about to google and discover your blog! Enjoy the ride.
Ned, I agree that is agressive and in poor taste. Generally satire that works as satire actually satirises something by making an actual (typically clear) point. The only clear point this dude was making is that he is a floppy penis atop a cushion of hairy haggots, so if that is satire, does that make him an unwitting object of self parody?
@ Ned Kelly’s
A Hitler mask as an anti-Nazi symbol? Wat?
hitler ,really?. i thought it was a praful patel mask -the union cabinet minister from Nagpur.
in anycase,whats with the sudden outrage. what about masks of Bush? They seem pretty popular worldwide -wasnt he a mass murderer?. ditto his poodles in the UK and Oz governments?
btw,anti-semitism is a horribly wrong term. All Jews are NOT semites.while MOST ARABS are indeed semites. hitler gassed millions of Asheknazi jews -they are all European and not semitic!. can we understand history 101 before using such cliched terms?
there was nothing anti jew about someone in nagpur wearing a hitler mask. if you find such a message, you need to travel the world a little more and understand the nuances of popular culture around the world.
such false sancitmony is absurd.maybe indians should playing cricket since it was invented by their past overlords. didnt they kill thousands of their brethren?. i dont know of many massacres of british people by the indians.
get off the high horse jrod -your liberal ass stinks with ignorance of nuances
Well said, Harsha.
To an average Indian, Hitler is just an evil dictator, period, on par with Idi Amin or Pol Pot. His popularity(?), I believe, is to a large extent due to Charlie Chaplin. It is not that the average guy is uncaring, it is just that he has not been bought up in an environment where it is a major force.
The donning the Hitler mask should be equated with somebody wearing a Satan mask, nothing more, nothing less.
I am tempted to connect this to an old crowd issue in India, but I resist for the general well being of the comment section.
Apologies in advance to anyone I have offended.
Ok, Ok, lets just say it out loud guys – Hitler is the mother of all fuckers because he had the audacity to mass-murder whites! And he frikkin’ gassed them! He din’t , for instance,
1. hang one native from each tree on the Grand trunk Road
2. drop atom bombs or napalm or stealths or other such aesthetic pleasing devices
3. spread small-pox laden blankets among the population
4. use chemical weapons like the great white hope Churchill advocated for the Kurds
(i dont suppose jrod was all righteous when Vaughan was reading Churchill to his men to inspire them).
So you may hate all mass-murderers jrod, but this ones special, isnt he.
@ INDOPHILE: and JRod we don’t have any feelings for Jews negative or positive, as there are no Jews here in India. Its just a stupid fad !!!
RIGHT ON! YOU SHITWADS THINK HAVING A PIC OF COW OR INDIAN GODS ON FOOTWEARS IS TRENDY OR EVEN BEING OKAY WITH A COMPANY CALLED “BRAHMA” FOOTWEARS. NOW I AM NOT EVEN RELIGIOUS BUT THE INDIAN PUBLIC WOULD BE OFFENDED AT THAT. AND YOU GUYS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH COWS EXCEPT YOU TORTURE AND KILL THEM.
SEE HOW IT GOES ASSHOLE ?
IT IS NOT OUR PROBLEM AND THOUGH I CONDEMM HITLER (I AM THE FEW MINORITY WHO HAVE AN INTERNET CONNECTION). THAT DUDE INSIDE THE MASK MIGHT NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT THE BIG FUCKING DEAL IS. SO DONT YOU FUCKING ABUSE OTHER INDIANS FOR IT.
ASSHOLE.
YOU WERE KOOL TILL YOU FUCKED PLAYERS, NOT SO WHEN YOU DO AN ENTIRE KIND OF PEOPLE. AND I KNOW I AM TYPING IN CAPS, DONT YOU EVEN USE THAT IN YOUR FUCKING RETORT.
As an outsider, I’ve found this series dead dull.
For a start, the last thing the cricket world needs is another 7 match ODI series involving the white-jacketed Aussies. Also, there’s been none of the sledging that made 2007 / 8 so wonderfully entertaining.
No, it’s just meh.
This thread on the other hand….
Leg Break´s last blog ..Bowling through India, with giveaway
Legbreak, youre from NZ, how can you find any series that doesnt involve your home country dull?
My great hope is the blond, blue-eyed Aryan Watson – he resembles Cro-magnon Haydn (remember Hzz from Phantom comics) and should be trained to play the part.
Now Bhajji is trying hard, he had a typically snide go at Watson when he was walking back.
Hasn’t this turned into quite the shitstorm….
Dsylexic,
To be fair to Jrod, he surely would have protested a Bush mask.
While we’re at it – what the hell:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar
and the gory details:
http://www.aracnet.com/~gdy52150/timeline.html
BTW uptight desis, during the last elections, Gujarat, that fair land of genocide, was flooded with Modi masks. Lets face it, we love our mass-murderes as much as anybody.
alright jrod, whatever turns you on. just dont excpect that others would get turned on as well or share your views. as for an apology, you must be joking. go back under the rock where u came from.
If contemporariness of the Hitler effect is the argument, I think we’ll have people old enough to remember Mr Churchill and his acts. So, are we going to be outraged by references to dear old Winston?
Also, should christians be outraged if someone wears a Satan mask?
Why selective outrage? Either you respect all sacred cows, are you f***ing diss all of them. Right?
Yawn.
These comments are getting very kiki and sassy.
I know that some Indians don’t always see the Holocaust as something that bad, but having your head up your ass isn’t a realistic defence in my mind.
Stupidest statement i have ever heard from this blogger for a long time. What people, esp bloggers, wont do for eye-balls. And jrod is now all caring and sensitive, this from a blogger who for the pretext of having satirical/funny cricket blog has made some of the shittiest comparisons of players/officials/teams with things, that if one did not have the humor hat on, would have found downright despicable.
Pot: U bloody blackie bastard
Kettle: Fuck u , u black nigger.
jhantu´s last blog .."in quotes"
Racism begins with our families, parents, brothers and sisters, aunts and uncles, grandparents, people we admire, respect and love.
However, as we grow and mature we come to the realization that what we were told by our family when we were children were slanted lies base on their prejudices. We realize that most people are like ourselves and not so different and want the same things, like a home, steady work, a Medicare plan and schools for our children (if you travel you will see this). We realize that most people are of good hearts and goodwill.
This reminds me of a parable from the good book where a Levite and Priest come upon a man who fell among thieves and they both individually passed by and didn’t stop to help him.
Finally a man of another race came by, he got down from his beast, decided not to be compassionate by proxy and got down with the injured man, administered first aid, and helped the man in need.
Jesus ended up saying, this was the good man, this was the great man, because he had the capacity to project the “I” into the “thou,” and to be concerned about his fellow man.
You see, the Levite and the Priest were afraid, they asked themselves, “If I stop to help this man, what will happen to me?”
But then the Good Samaritan came by. And he reversed the question: “If I do not stop to help this man, what will happen to him?”
That’s the question before us. The question is not, “If I stop to help our fellow man (immigrant) in need, what will happen to me?” The question is, “If I do not stop to help our fellow man, what will happen to him or her?” That’s the question.
This current climate of blaming others for our woes is not new. We have had this before and we have conquered it.
Remember “Evil flourishes when good men (and women) do nothing”. Raise your voices with those of us who believe we are equal and we can win this battle again.
Jogesh, coming from Jrod, the “didn’t know that” comment was probably sarcastic. Not sure whether that’s more or less disturbing than the literal meaning.
Adsy, I’ve seen plenty of Bush masks in that style, and no-one I ever saw wearing it was a fan of Bush. Then again, I can’t at all understand why this mask was worn in this context. For that, and many many other reasons, I’ve come to the conclusion that this whole discussion is very stupid.
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Despotic homocidal dictatorships are bad, n’kay? Hitler was bad. He was bad man.
Is that what you are all saying?
Well, now that momentous breakthrough in social ethics has been discovered … cricket anyone?
jogesh99 said:
Ok, Ok, lets just say it out loud guys – Hitler is the mother of all fuckers because he had the audacity to mass-murder whites!
I dunno, dude. Most European Jews were kinda swarthy. I guess you must be a racist, jogesh99? We “all look the bloody same,” eh?
ps: I am laffing at all the Indians and assorted Peter Roebucks getting angry at this.
“B-b-b-but Australian’s are racist too!” Ha ha ha ha! Pass the popcorn.
Ned, we’re not going to get a mention of the match on this site dood. Notice how jrod, smh, and the australian (the order in which i read aussies) focussed on paines broken finger while reporting the match, with some passing reference to the mauling.
> We “all look the bloody same,” eh?
No, my blubbering big boy, but you pretty much all sound the same.
Ok piss off now, say your three Sieg Heils and off to bed … .
Not much to add, but since you’re in sight of your ton (first ever?), I thought I should say something.
Racism is bad.
And I’ve been to Jallianwala Bagh. And I live in Australia. No nation’s hands are clean.
@KC
And what exactly has the Maldives done to deserve being added to the list of nations with bloody hands?
@achettup
They spit into every hamburger they serve to American holidaymakers. Or every second one anyway.
@KC
While it is quite possible that they stoop to such lows in a country where the highest point is 2.4m above sea level, I believe they no longer make hamburgers because they’re very concerned about global heating.
@achettup
The world is full of contradictions. While the Maldives may not have a large cattle industry of its own, they have to keep their tourists happy somehow. So they buy that cow meat in. It’s a shocking business, but there you have it. The truth is they only pretend to be concerned about global heating, just like the rest of us.
I do love the arc of these comments.
Jrod’s a racist.
Jrod is spot on.
Jrod is a white liberal.
Chris Columbus was bad too.
Jrod has white guilt.
Everyone is up their own asses.
Jesus.
Hamburgers.
And climate change. Important stuff.
But there comes a point where you just want to reach that hundred. Right?
Let’s bring it home.
I wanted to be the 100th comment. So I’m commenting purely for selfish reasons.
YAY! 100, that’s me.
Anyway, Hitler is the least funny human ever. Then comes Joe Stalin and Chairman Mao. Then Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Papa Doc Duvalier, Nicolae Ceauşescu etc…. There’s no innocent fun to be had with these folk.
KC, give it up. I already got the 100.
102 comments? You could have got even more if you’d managed to work in a few lines about chucking.
B-b-b-but Australians!
"Jesus hamburgers." Absolutely suberb. Consider that one stolen, sizzlechest.Woo hoo!! This is the second ‘hundred’ I have been a part of on cwb! Note THAT KC!
That’s two more than I ever made at real cricket!
KC – re Hitler is not a funny man: Charlie Chaplin and Mel Brooks (at least!) would argue with you. (Its a fucked up world I know – laugh or cry, it doesn’t really matter).
Jogesh – your ~saying out loud~ was great comment dood. That made me think more than anything I’ve heard in days. I actually think you are right? There’s a real long debate here about gross number of victims, global politics, actual policy etc, but certainly here in aus Hitler is the real big bad man, and Pol Pot, Idi Amin (dare I say it even Bin Laden, Sadam et al) are the support cast. You’ve got to wonder really, why?
I’m with Ned Kelly. Then again, if Hitler is the big bad guy here in Aus, then Ned is one of the big good guys, so perhaps that’s not surprising…
Re Pol Pot – beautiful moving essay on Pol Pot’s life and Kampuchea’s attempts at revival post him by Amitav Ghosh, called Dancing in Cambodia.
Jrod, awesome stream of consciousness thread – life of its own, almost …
Hussey, apropos of nothing, is an incredibly versatile cricketer. Another 80 n.o. on a typical Kotla track. Reminiscent of Mongia’s 150 in a Test against the Aussies here many years ago, with Ian Chappel talking utter crap throughout the innings because he had no clue how to bat on it, but being a Chappell, just had to pontificate …
KC – Hitler, least funny ever ! Fuck, can’t you read. Go to the references and educate yourself. If you want to debate, at least understand what the other side is saying.
With all the white-washing you’ve undergone in the free world, I dont expect you to ever accept or agree, but at least comprehend.
And all those whitey backed bit players – Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Saddam – please!
Stalin and Mao, yeah, theyre up there with the US, Brit, French, Portuguese, Dutch, Italian, etc.
Look, its pretty straightforward, as an Irish friend once said to me:
Either your country colonised or it did not. (n.b. Ireland was colonised by the English)
Heres one more, elementary stuff one would think:
http://www.btinternet.com/~davidbeaumont/msf/listbombed.html
The genuine concern on all the aussie faces is really good to see.
http://www.cricinfo.com/indvaus2009/content/current/story/432337.html
Hussey really impressed, Yuvraj really surprised. Those batting powerplays in the last 5 overs are real nasty, they should be limited to the middle overs (15-40).
Why is it that all the fun comment wars happen when it is the month end and I am too busy?? Any which ways, I learnt a whole lot on a whole lot of things. Never though I would read about genocide and cattle consumption in Maldives in the same comment thread.
There’s one thing I’m still not sure about after all this. A while ago I went to a fancy dress party as Osama Bin Laden. It was in a Jewish area of Melbourne and there were Jewish people at the party, also United Statians, Australians and Colombians (though they had no specific reason to be offended I mention them because one of them was hot and I pashed her). I always thought it was funny but after all this maybe I should feel guilty. I didn’t realize I was glorifying death to the infidels. How am I supposed to feel, bloggers?
Lonely and confused,
St Kilda, 23.
Vico, Osama is no Chris Columbus. By the way, what did Tony Greig say when the camera focused in on you when you were dancing?
depends on what pashed means?
B-b-b-but Australians!
B-b-b-but Australians are more racist! Someone pay attention to me.