equatorFucken livid that that my game has come to this.
Pissed off that someone is dead protecting a sport I play.
That people from a lunatic fringe have wounded my sport.
Pissed off that the people of Pakistan have to live like this.
Angry at cunts that gloat in the face of tragedy.
Filty at the mother fucking assholes that forget they live in glasshouses.
The I told you so’ers lining to tell everyone that they are right and everyone else is a dickhead can fuck right off.
Fuck the people who try and score points in this madness.
The cunts who put 40 year old rifles in the police officers hands.
Fuck the hate.
Fuck me for being right.
Fuck me for being wrong.
Everyone who thought of the affect this had on cricket before they thought of the lives lost should go get fucked.
Anyone who thought of the poor Lankan cricketers before the dead Pakistani police officers should be fucken ashamed of themselves.
Fuck religion, and all the hate it brings out in people, no one has killed in the name of cricket, and it is our game, our life, our hope, our dreams, our entertainment, our spirituality, our religion.
Fuck the terrorists.
Fuck them hard, fuck them for taking something pure and good, and turning it to shit. Fuck them for thinking this will help them. Fuck them for thinking they are right and justified. Fuck them for doing this and still not making a difference. Fuck them for killing. Fuck them for maiming. Fuck them for ruining Pakistan. Fuck them hard.
Jrod, can go and get fucked too.
You get emotionally involved when something affects you, you little weasel cunt.
Fuck yourself for putting this game on a pedestal.
You and your sadness can go and get fucked.
fuck
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Yes Jrod. With you on that.
Fucking right!
Sad sad country. I just listened to Chris Broads interview and it seems really sad to hear that they were left in the bus with no security nearby.
Un fucking believe fucking able.
Sad thing is no one is going to put an end to it. It appears everyone is afraid of them.
Do you feel their objective of creating international fear is met?
An event like that highlights that there are a lot more important things going on in Pakistan than cricket. I am blaming the government that bleated on about the War on Terror, while taking all their army away from Afghanistan to invade Iraq. I blame them that the extremists are now overrunning Pakistan and Afghanistan.
fuck seems about right.
everyone here seems to be asking – how could they attack cricket? is nothing sacred anymore?
your post made me realise that we have gotten so used to people being killed that we almost seemed to have forgotten about it. guess we have gotten a lot more fucked up than we realised.
but it still feels like they’ve attacked someone in my family.
Fucking cunts. Jrod, I remember all your previous posts about why teams should play in Pakistan, the hypocracy of it all – you even argued that OZ should play there, and I backed you on that one 100 percent with everyone I ever met who was prepared to discuss the matter.
We were wrong. They killed our game.
RIP international cricket as it once was- the future just won’t be the same
I am more sad then angry. Not just about this incident but the overall state of humanity. Not just in Pakistan, but Zimbabwe, Somalia, Sudan etc. And not just in far off exotic sounding countries but in my own back yard in NZ, with murders, rapes, teachers being stabbed and beatings.
Every time something like this happens, and it seems to be a pretty frequent occurence, the world becomes an even darker place.
Yes Labrat, the world is a dark place, but up until now, we at least had the innocence of cricket to get us by, a colorful kaleidescope of nations that transcended boundaries and religions. Everyone loved cricket – from the Rastis in the Carribean to the protentants in England, to the Muslims, Hindus and whatever else in the subcontinent. You had hard core pommie hating Africaners, you had Aussies and Kiwis – everyone was there for the game. With the IPL and 2020 cricket making inroads, we were on the road towards taking the rest of the world by storm. Now we are in the shit, and It damn well pisses me off.
UJ
Amen
After the terror attack in Munich Games I thought the Olympics eere finished.
They aren’t
This won’t finish cricket (although if it would end terrorism I would sacrifice cricket)
Perhaps this will shock Pakistan into the actions they need to address the problems in their society.
Now security will be taken seriously.
Cricket has so long been a refuge for me. Immersing myself in the intricacies, the foibles, the crazy antics. It has been a parallel universe where for a time I can ignore the ugliness of the real world. This world has now been invaded.
Terrorism can only win if we let it.
We defeat terrorism by rejecting the hate & anger it seeks to create.
“Give peace a chance”
Well said JRod – now we all await with breathtaking anticipation to hear the ICC’s response…and wait…and wait…and wait….
Jrod a long time follower of your blog from India.
It is scary to think of what may have been. As Mahela said it is probably providence which saved them.
Sometimes I think that you guys in Aus,NZ live in such a lovely peaceful part of the world. How it would feel to not be plagued by fear all the time. I really envy that sort of existence. But then I guess life would never be this rich in terms of experience of ups and downs of emotions. I guess existence among more than a billion people is bound to be like this.
I feel cricket as not really important at such times – IPL could be a casuality and i wouldn’t be entirely unhappy. Would i not personally think twice before taking my family to any of the matches – yeah i would.
But then where does this end and how much do we let these people dictate out lives
If commenters on your blog disagree with your previous posts regarding wether the Australian team should tour Pakistan i don’t see the problem with them bringing it up now.
What are they supposed to do wait 3 months before they say anything?
The fact is they have been proved correct that Pakistan is not a safe place for touring international cricket sides to visit.
This is not gloating. I don’t think anyone is happy to be proved correct in this instance.
All they are doing is pointing out that your previous argument were fatally wrong. This is a large error on your part. As a commentator you have to live with this.
Nick, I agree that it’s maybe worth commenting on, but there WERE some douche bags who were gloating and laughing about it. I’ve read it on several blogs and it’s fucking disgusting.
Nick, that wasn’t aimed at people on my blog, that was aimed at people right across the blogsphere.
This is the only blog i read!
Seriously. Definately the only cricket blog. So haven’t seen the other comments.
I still think it would be a good idea if you did a post explaining why you wanted tours to Pakistan to go ahead when the Australians were pulling out. If i had to have a guess i would say that your love of cricket and hatred of CA overided your better judgement. Think it would be an interesting post.
Not having a go at your blog however.
I tried to do a blog once but it was rubbish. I’d do a post, go to sleep, wake up, read it and want to take it down it was so bad (depending on substance intake at time of post).
Blogging is tough. I guess that half the fun watching bloggers try and get themselves out of the holes they’ve dug themselves into.
@ JRod,
cricket had been losing its ethos for a while
but I do not accept it has been tainted by this event
it was not a fault or a weakness
or any dishonourable act of dishonesty that brought this on cricket
on the contrary, the Sri Lankans should be applauded for their brave gesture
to tour a cricket playing nation when others were pulling out
for a long while
I have been reading/studying this cauldron of politics/military/religion that is Pakistan
what comes out is the terrorism – you can go as far back as you wish to dig and find when and where it started,
you cannot isolate terrorism that originates in and from Pakistan from its administration – both the military – and also the elected
Murali has raised a point that echoes what I wrote yesterday,
this was a planned ambush –
the CCTV footage, the description of events from Chris Broad – Sri Lankan players proves it
and SOMEONE in administration KNEW there would be an ambush –
held back the Pakistan team but let the Sri Lankan team and the officials drive into it -
to almost certain death
that is not negligence – that is a CRIME
in the past I have argued that any cricket team visiting pakistan would be safer than playing in their own country – I believed they would be given “presidential style security”. It would be their best troops in guard –
there was none – that is not laughable – it makes me insane with anger for it was DELIBERATE – and for being proved to be moronically wrong
Cricket must go on
for the entire playing and loving worldwide community it represents honesty and fairplay
but we cannot seperate cricket from real life – to split apart as two different realities
we are angry because some individuals died in the name of cricket
the same terror groups have been killing individuals for standing up for human rights
Pakistan will suffer –
but that is a price they have to pay for letting their nation become like this
till they STOP DENYing that parts of their administration and terrorism are interlinked
South African cricket / cricketers / cricket lovers could not have all been racists,
they spent years in wilderness for reasons political
there has to be a change in how Pakistan functions as a nation
this is their wake up call – they have to remain in isolation till they do wake up.
©hinaman,
SL should not be aplauded for travelling to Pakistan.
Australian security experty Reg Dickason warned SL authorities two weeks before the tour began that Pakistan was not safe for a touring side.
Heads should role in SL cricket administration over this tour going ahead. They are lucky they don’t have the playes blood on there hands.
@ Nick,
were they lucky, Oh boy, I do agree on that -
it was a matter of the bullets missing the driver
and the grenade thrown under the bus was mistimed hence rolling out the other side
or the entire Sri Lankan team would have been blown to smithereens
I will differ in my opinion about the applauding,
if Pakistan as their “friend” nation, invites them and guarantees security –
then to go and help that “friend” in the face of the warnings is truly an honorable gesture
the problem is not Sri Lankan’s accepting the invite
the problem is of Pakistan NOT giving the security that they had promised
and to let a planned ambush go ahead –
inspite of having warnings – and if my speculations are correct – with the nod of someone in the power heirarchy – that is CRIMINAL
I shall applaud the Sri Lankan –
while I shall forever criticise the Pakistanis for letting this happen
BTW anyone who wants a bit more info on whats happening in Pakistan on a broader scale could do alot worse than look at Pakistani author Ahmed Rashid’s work.
This is his website:
http://www.ahmedrashid.com/
He brought out a book, Taliban, 6 months before 9/11. Pretty good timing.
This is his latest article.
http://www.michaelyon-online.com/islamabad-s-capitulation.htm
Chinaman,
I agree that it looks like this was an inside job. But the SL admins should have known better.
Honestly anyone who reads a newspapers knows better. In the spirit of the original post thats why i am fucken angry!
I just saw this thing happening. I’m so relieved the SL players got out ok, and proud of the Pakistani men who died doing there duty.
Regarding the “presidential security” bullshit everyone is carring on with it’s nonsense. The differnces between a foreign dignataries visit to Pakistan and a cricket side are emense.
The main difference is scheduling. Everyone knows that cricketers have to play matches so they have to be at a certain place at a certain time. Say if the coward Bush had visited Pakistan nobody would had any idea what his schedule was. Makes him hard to attack. Say Australia picks Bush as there 4th bowler for the next test, he’ll be taken out no worries.
It also shows a lack of understanding asymetrical war. Sorry for all the tech heads out there and people who think they can hide behind ’security’. Get this through your head. There is not much we can do to prevent these types of attacks!
The news article recently out states that the militant group that attacked the Sri Lankan team had the intention to take them as captives, and not to kill them. Their plan was to hold them hostage and demand the release of the LeT heads that were arrested by Pakistan in connection with the Mumbai bombings.
JRod: Nice list, but its not complete. <a href=”http://eye-on-cricket.blogspot.com/2009/03/givin-bird.html”I’ve made a few additions and posted it over at Eye-on-Cricket.
Cheers,
Samir
Sorry, let try again:
JRod: Nice list, but its not complete. I’ve made a few additions and posted it over at Eye-on-Cricket.
Cheers,
Samir
@ Nick,
I think I have enough intelligence to know that if an administration wants to provide security, they CAN do it – very easily.
You forget the President of Pakistan is the Patron of the PCB.
He could have lined the streets with proper military guards if he had wished to.
There was no difference in the status between a head of state and this Sri Lankan team when it comes to the importance of a nation proving to the world they are a stable sovereign nation.
What you write about cricketers travelling to “schedules”, and so were vulnerable – is rubbish. Good security always takes ambushes into account – they change routes – they have cordons – they have armed escorts – if really necessary the players could have been transported in helicopters.
contrary to their regular practice
the home team was held back at the last minute and travelled seperately
do you realise the significance of it at all?
this “Reg Dickason” you talk about,
did he warn the Sri Lankans that the Pakistan military and intelligence were themselves involved in training terrorists? If yes, only then I will say the Sri Lankans were stupid.
you write,
Get this through your head.
I presume you are an expert on such matters, are you?
if not, there are better ways of expressing opinions – I do not have to learn anything from you.
Here another little update, Chairman of the PCB Mr Butt has reported Chris Broad to the ICC over his claims that security wasn’t good enough.
http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/pakvsl/content/current/story/393513.html
the worlds gone mad
Sorry i’ve taken so long to reply chinaman, was having dinner (pie, gems and a couple of Heinekens).
I’m not an expert. I’m one better-a nerd! I spend most my time web surfing for cricket and war news. Basicly i failed puberty.
What i’ve learnt is the main stream media is full of shit. Doesn’t matter what the topic.
President of Pakistan? Ask him how his wife is for me. Nice woman, can’t quite remember her name…started with a B…anyway. I’m sure he has full control of the country and the Pakistani security services are on board 100% (you know the ones support the taliban). Yes no doubt all this cordoning and everything would go down just fine.
Yes, i do realise it’s a tad odd old the Pakistani bus was held back. But if this President you mention has such a tight grip on things surely nothing untoward was going on?
Regarding Reg, he warned the SL admin two weeks out. Everyone knows there are elements of the ISS in bed with the Talibs.
Your not breaking any ground mate and your arguments are contradictory.
Just a minute,
did the present President of Pakistan lose his wife, the Nice woman, can’t quite remember her name…started with a B…anyway, while in office? No? It was when he was a political nobody?
This argument of yours is absolute rubbish.
I think what you and I agree on is the elected president/government of Pakistan has no say – the strings are pulled by the military and the ISI.
You say “Everyone “knows” there are elements of the ISS in bed with the Talibs.”
But nobody will say so;
and not just some elements of it, they created the Talibs and the LeT
Unless it is said – it gives everyone a false sense of security,
they believe these “islamic terrorists” are an extraneous factor – which they are NOT.
That was my question,
did or did not Reg Dickason as a “security expert” spell this out. He did not.
If he knew it he had to say it loud for the world to hear – if he did not he failed his responibility and his opinion is worthless.
You are forgetting the Sri Lankan players had a say in this – yet they were happy to go and some has said they are happy to go again. Now why would they do that if this Dickason has advised if they go they will be “sitting ducks” to the terrorists?
My arguments are not contradictory.
BTW if main stream media is full of shit, where do you get your nerdy non-shit information from that you believe is authentic?
Nick, this post started as a post about why my thoughts on teams touring to Pakistan. Will be up shortly.
I am at least six things on that list, so fuck Batting in Ned Kelly’s Helmet!!
Excellent post Jrod. I know you don’t write these things in search of praise but I find your pathos as good as your comedy (the bush fire post was excellent too). Thanks.
Nick I do tend to agree that there is little that can be done about terrorism. We are in the middle of a new type of war where the ‘rules’, the ’state of play’ is very difficult to determine. Reg Dickason has come out of this with a lot of credibility and I personally would go on his advice, a point I have already made in comments to this blog.
But I don’t think Jrod was ‘wrong’ in supporting the touring of Pakistan. The Sri Lankans and subsequent touring teams could have come away with no drama at all. It is just that there were risks – as it turned out the risk was too high, but there is risk in everything.
I now personally find myself exactly where Jrod was – except now its India under consideration. Common sense tells me, post-Mumbai, post-Lahore, that conditions are worsening, that India is a big and busy place with lots of trap points, that major competitions like the IPL ship with strict schedules that tell everyone where you are (gee, wouldn’t it be fun if George W bowled second change in today’s Test? I’d be looking forward to watching him bat against Steyn, yes indeed), and that there must be people corrupted (either with cash or ideology, its all the same) within Indian cricket just like there clearly are within Pakistan cricket. Its a death trap – probably.
But I watched every game of the IPL last year, my daughter was born three hours before it started, and I sat up with that my new little bundle, watching the whole thing, and will always remember it as one of the most pleasant periods of my life. I want the IPL to go on. I want cricket in India to go on. How could we not play in India? Pakistan I can deal with, but losing India? That’s too big a blow for world cricket. So I want teams to tour India. I want India to be safe.
But if Reg says no? Well, I’m torn. Stay or go, I don’t know. As Jrod says in this post, regardless of what happens – fuck me for being right, and fuck me for being wrong.
as a pakistani, and a journalist, i wanted to add a little bit of info to the debate above.
from what we have seen, as well as the reaction of the various authorities in pakistan, this was an abject case of security failure. that does not mean that pakistan can not provide security, but it makes evident the fact that our government and administration was too fucking lazy and incompetent, and yes, perhaps maliciously involved in this whole episode.
when the indians visited in 2004, they WERE afforded presidential level security. its the sort of security that allowed former President Musharraf to escape several extremely well-coordinated attempts on his life.
the security provided to the sri lankans was a joke.
again, i must stress that this does not mean we can’t provide good security, because any government official (and even their family members) travel in motorcades involving at least 50 different vehicles. one of the curses of living in urban pakistan is waiting in traffic for up to four hours at a time because one of our elected officials has decided to go out for a spot of shopping. our government has also spent well above a 100 million dollars for purchasing bullet proof, and bomb proof limousines and other vehicles.
unfortunately, none of those were provided to the tourists. moreover, the lankans were also NOT provided security from our elite force that is extremely well trained and was set up for providing security for visiting heads of state and the like. currently, each major politician, including those in opposition, have up to 100 guards from the elite forces to themselves. none of this is legal, or moral. but this is the reality that is pakistan.
as for BB, her security detail when she was assasinated was a joke. no one in pakistan believes that she was killed by those our government blamed; instead we suspect various elements of the state itself.
what’s important, and what a lot of foreign bloggers and almost none of the pakistani bloggers have mentioned, is that we as a nation need to stand up and sort ourselves out. of course, that is easier said than done. but we have our heads so far up our asses that i don’t see it happening any time soon.
it warms the heart to hear all the support that people have given the pakistani team. it angers me violently to look at how we as a people, and our government has reacted to this. i don’t know if we would be playing soon, or if we even deserve to.